You write: "While I don’t think anything resembling a national secession has any chance of happening..."
Consider this scenario:
Team Trump is plowing ahead to test the boundaries of their power. At some point it will clash with the judiciary. TT decides they can simply ignore court orders, judges being reluctant to actually go so far to issue arrest warrents - and what of it? - who is going to carry out an arrest anyway? The DOJ's US Marshals? Fat chance...
Along the way, TT will realize they actually don't ever need to relinquish power anymore. Fast forward 2028. States will nevertheless call the election, the GOP gets a beating, but then TT and the crony VP will simply declare the outcome invalid and simply stay put, ignoring the feeble protests. Again, who will evict them from the White House, with all agencies purged with bobbleheads instead at all levels?
At this point; when the Putin-ification of the USA is complete, what will the blue states do, when its finally, *Finally* apparant to these fuckers what the end-goal has always been?
Reminded me of this “Dear Red States” letter I came across at the height of Covid.
DEAR RED STATES; WE'RE LEAVING.
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, California, New Mexico, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast.
We also get the vast majority of the major shipping ports. So good luck with getting goods in or out of the country affordably.
We also get Costco, Starbucks and Boeing. You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Branson, Missouri.
We get Intel, Apple and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Mississippi.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happier, intact families.
Please be aware that California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home.
With the Blue States unified, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at your state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools -- Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, the Penn, Princeton, and Yale; and Mount Holyoke, Vassar, Smith, Wellesley, Bryn Mawr, Barnard, and Radcliffe colleges; plus UCLA, UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes,
nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Alex Jones and Rand Paul.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 62 percent of you believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties. (See that part about divorces. ...)
Oh, and you can have all the new COVID-19 cases since you're too dumb and self-centered to get vaccinated and to wear masks.
Peace out.
We are the people of the
Blue States
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I was thinking about it the other day, I bet there are more shared values and solidarity between the people of Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia and all the other ex-Yugoslavia countries that fought a war than between Republicans and the rest of mankind.
I live in a truly purple state and honestly, despite my own (pretty far for this country) leftist politics, I like it that way. I don't want everyone to think the same way as me!
In Europe where I grew up people think differently than me. Republicans don't think differently, they HATE others and want to take as much power as possible from them. If refusing to send money to blue states that suffered natural disasters, or the 2020 trifecta (attempted coup, support for police homicides, refuse the bare minimum of masks and vaccines to protect everyone's life) didn't make you understand that, I don't know what does.
I get all of that because I'm living through it, so I don't really need your condescension. That said, the GOP/MAGA-faithful (who I don't have time for) does not encompass the entirety of the political not-left. A lot of that group are smart, compassionate, well-meaning people who deserve some grace.
sorry but "purple" to me means lots of MAGA, it sound like you're referring more to people who don't identify with either party and they're everywhere (idk if I'd consider myself a Dem either). Different point of views are suppressed by the US electoral system, so being able to create a more representative multi-party system IMO is one of the greatest advantages of breaking away from the union, which would lead to all sorts of other benefits. In my home country I voted for 4 different parties in a span of few elections, here is always the lesser of 2 evils. I think it would be a better system for you, me and the "non-left" you mentioned, even if it would be a huge change.
My work has put me in touch with a fair number of MAGA people, who often are mostly decent and sometimes even have smart perspectives on things until some chip in their head is triggered and they become mean-spirited (or just confused) nightmares in conversation. I don't begrudge their existence so long as fair democracy continues to exist, and certainly would love more parties to exist to create more nuanced coalitions and policies. I think the balkanization talk begins when those opportunities are no longer there because rules have been ignored, laws are broken, and media becomes insurmountable.
You write: "While I don’t think anything resembling a national secession has any chance of happening..."
Consider this scenario:
Team Trump is plowing ahead to test the boundaries of their power. At some point it will clash with the judiciary. TT decides they can simply ignore court orders, judges being reluctant to actually go so far to issue arrest warrents - and what of it? - who is going to carry out an arrest anyway? The DOJ's US Marshals? Fat chance...
Along the way, TT will realize they actually don't ever need to relinquish power anymore. Fast forward 2028. States will nevertheless call the election, the GOP gets a beating, but then TT and the crony VP will simply declare the outcome invalid and simply stay put, ignoring the feeble protests. Again, who will evict them from the White House, with all agencies purged with bobbleheads instead at all levels?
At this point; when the Putin-ification of the USA is complete, what will the blue states do, when its finally, *Finally* apparant to these fuckers what the end-goal has always been?
California, being the fourth largest economy in the world, would likely do quite well as a separate nation.
Just sayin’.
Reminded me of this “Dear Red States” letter I came across at the height of Covid.
DEAR RED STATES; WE'RE LEAVING.
We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us.
In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, California, New Mexico, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast.
We also get the vast majority of the major shipping ports. So good luck with getting goods in or out of the country affordably.
We also get Costco, Starbucks and Boeing. You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches.
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Branson, Missouri.
We get Intel, Apple and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Mississippi.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; you get to make the red states pay their fair share.
Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happier, intact families.
Please be aware that California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home.
With the Blue States unified, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at your state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools -- Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, the Penn, Princeton, and Yale; and Mount Holyoke, Vassar, Smith, Wellesley, Bryn Mawr, Barnard, and Radcliffe colleges; plus UCLA, UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.
With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes,
nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Alex Jones and Rand Paul.
We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 62 percent of you believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties. (See that part about divorces. ...)
Oh, and you can have all the new COVID-19 cases since you're too dumb and self-centered to get vaccinated and to wear masks.
Peace out.
We are the people of the
Blue States
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I read abt this high school - feels like it’s coming
I was thinking about it the other day, I bet there are more shared values and solidarity between the people of Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia and all the other ex-Yugoslavia countries that fought a war than between Republicans and the rest of mankind.
I live in a truly purple state and honestly, despite my own (pretty far for this country) leftist politics, I like it that way. I don't want everyone to think the same way as me!
In Europe where I grew up people think differently than me. Republicans don't think differently, they HATE others and want to take as much power as possible from them. If refusing to send money to blue states that suffered natural disasters, or the 2020 trifecta (attempted coup, support for police homicides, refuse the bare minimum of masks and vaccines to protect everyone's life) didn't make you understand that, I don't know what does.
I get all of that because I'm living through it, so I don't really need your condescension. That said, the GOP/MAGA-faithful (who I don't have time for) does not encompass the entirety of the political not-left. A lot of that group are smart, compassionate, well-meaning people who deserve some grace.
sorry but "purple" to me means lots of MAGA, it sound like you're referring more to people who don't identify with either party and they're everywhere (idk if I'd consider myself a Dem either). Different point of views are suppressed by the US electoral system, so being able to create a more representative multi-party system IMO is one of the greatest advantages of breaking away from the union, which would lead to all sorts of other benefits. In my home country I voted for 4 different parties in a span of few elections, here is always the lesser of 2 evils. I think it would be a better system for you, me and the "non-left" you mentioned, even if it would be a huge change.
My work has put me in touch with a fair number of MAGA people, who often are mostly decent and sometimes even have smart perspectives on things until some chip in their head is triggered and they become mean-spirited (or just confused) nightmares in conversation. I don't begrudge their existence so long as fair democracy continues to exist, and certainly would love more parties to exist to create more nuanced coalitions and policies. I think the balkanization talk begins when those opportunities are no longer there because rules have been ignored, laws are broken, and media becomes insurmountable.
This is more or less what I was gonna say. I would love for the US to have a parliamentary system but that's a long way off even if it were possible.